Haganai box art

  • Genre:  Harem, comedy romance, slice of life
  • Episodes: 12
  • Studio: AIC Build


We all know that moving around all the time is though on a kid. You have to adjust to a new school and nee people every time. For a kid like Kodaka this this s particularly difficult since he’s always had such a hard time making friends. It’s not even his fault or anything. It’s just that with the dishwater blonde hair his inherited from his late mother and his lack of skills when it comes to smiling, people always mistake him for a dangerous delinquent. After all this time he’s gotten so use to being by himself, he’s not even sure how to make friends anymore. Lucky for him, he’s not the only socially challenged teenager in school (imagine that!). When he catches beautiful but abrasive Yozora talking to an imaginary friend, she ends up roping him into a new school club dedicated to making friends. Maybe Kodaka was better off being a loner after all.

Haganai has been on my to watch list forever. I was just so charmed by the tag line: I don’t have many friends. As a kid who moved around a whole lot myself I can really relate. What I didn’t realize before watching it is that this is a harem show. I definitely can not relate to having one of those in high school…

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yeah…I somehow didn’t figure out this was a harem….

This show was really not what I expected. Even visually. You may not be able to tell from the stills, but the art style is somewhat unique. I would call it protomoe. The idea of modern Moe aesthetics is there. Rounded soft lines and slightly subdued colours, insistence on the ladies’ more popular attributes. However, it’s not quite the look we’re use to. The edges are still a little sharp and features more squat than anything else. The colours aren’t so much pastel as washed out. As for those lovely attributes… well actually those are pretty much what you’d expect.

Although it’s not a glaring departure from the norm. I have to say that I have never really seen a show that looks quite like Haganai. Visually, perhaps the most striking distinction is the heavy use of shadowing. For the most part though, it’s really just a collection of slightly unusual artistic choice that add up to a unique looking anime.

I can’t say I really noticed much about the overall production values. Maybe this was because I was too distracted by Yozora’s voice. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a beautiful voice (a really really beautiful voice…) and a great performance but for some reason it never quite meshed with the character for me. Can you experience auditory uncanny valley? If so, that’s what I got. I just couldn’t accept that that voice belonged to that character. I kept trying to imagine what the voice actor looked like instead. I googled it, turns out it’s the fantastic Marina Inoue.

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she looks like this!

I must insist that this isn’t any type of reproach on either the voice itself or the performance which were both great. But the eerie (probably entirely in my head) feeling of dissonance was so prevalent that it took over my attention all the way to the last episode.

As I already mentioned Haganai is a school club set harem. I must say that story wise it’s pretty stereotypical. I was very heavily reminded of Snafu (a club of socially awkward kids who don’t quite fit in despite being gorgeous and smart) or the more recent Masamune-kun’s Revenge. The usual players are here. The misunderstood main character who’s shunned by the masses but is actually a really nice guy who all the girls fall for. The fragile otokonoko. The fiery tsundere. The soft big chested idiot savant with Yuri tendencies. Not one but two lolis just to be safe…

Despite the similarities though, I enjoyed Haganai much more than any of these other shows. I would put it on par with S1 of Love, Chuunibuyou and other Delusions which is great praise indeed. For all it’s pretences at romance, at it’s core Haganai is still about the very relatable state of feeling alone and isolated as you grow up, and not knowing how to go about changing that. I think a lot of us have been there at some point and Haganai captures that feeling perfectly. It’s not high dramatics or raging anger at the world. It’s that quiet wonder at how people magically manage to come together for no apparent reason and that frustration at not being able to do the same.

Overall the tone remains firmly optimistic and jovial. As for those staple characters, even though they were all fairly pro forma, I still grew very attached to them. Haganai strays quite a bit from Kodaka’s strict pov, as such most characters get some time to establish their motivations and personalities. Their reaction are of course ridiculously over the top but they make sense in context. I have watched so many harem shows (even good ones) where the ladies would from time to time become complete lunatics. I remember rewatching episodes to figure out why some girl was suddenly all sad and crying, and I never could… In Haganai, I always understood the logical cause and effect.

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everything is perfectly sensible here…

I should warn you however, there is some not too detailed full frontal nudity and you do see quite a few nipples, sometimes on very young characters. There’s also a plethora of less explicit fanservice as you would expect from the genre. But you know, to me it always felt joyful rather than exploitative. The instances were woven into the narrative often serving some story purpose as well. If you are easily upset by this sort of thing, it may get a bit too much for you but it didn’t bother me at all. In fact, an early scene with a character bending over to get a better look at a video game was quite fetching.

The one thing that did bother me was Maria. She’s the second loli and is written as sort of a mashup of all the most annoying traits of small children. I’m not sure who this appeals to but it is not at all me, and the scenes with both lolis (the first being Kobato who is delightful on her own), are effectively ruined by Maria’s presence in my opinion.

Let’s wrap this up shall we. If you’re looking for a classic harem that’s high on comedy and low on both drama and romance, I recommend Haganai whole heartedly. It’s not revolutionary but it does take some unusual creative approaches in both concept and design which are worth seeing for yourself.

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ok now I want to join this club

Favourite character: Rika

What this anime taught me: Boys can wear capris too

Reality is an illusion that occurs due to lack of alcohol.

Suggested drink: a Mutual Friend

  • Every time Kodaka blushes – take a sip
  • Every time Yozora and Sena argue – stretch
  • Every time Sena gets obsessed with a game – take a sip
  • Every time Kodaka genuinely looks like a thug – take a sip
  • Every time Sena storms out or away – raise your glass
  • Every time Kobato does her chuuni laugh – awwww
  • Every time we see Kodaka’s childhood friend – take a sip
  • Every time Kobato is clingy – take a sip
  • Every time anyone calls someone stupid or an idiot – take a sip
  • Every time Rika gets rowdy – take a sip
  • Every time someone mention’s Kodaka’s hair – take a sip

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71 thoughts

  1. I really enjoyed Haganai, although I don’t really rewatch it because I know the unresolved end that it’s going to (and that’s all the end there is, because the writer pretty much abandoned it right there because he didn’t know where to take it). I liked the second series more than the first, because it did extend the relationships more, but also was very frustrating as far as Kodaka compared to the rest of the cast.

    For me, Yozora was the best character, because I do love Marina Inoue’s acting. I never really felt that there was a mismatch there, but that’s maybe more me than anything else. I really like the overall interplay of the show, and did find Maria to be a bit annoying, cause here’s this little kid that’s really reaching to be included (which then makes you feel bad for her).

    If you haven’t heard the Kobato vs Maria Character Image Song, you might find it very amusing. 🙂

  2. Official request for this post:

    “If you really want to talk about the creative process from a neurochemical standpoint, as biological limitations to creativity we can go into that too but I have a feeling I will be the only one interested in that.”

    I would be _very_ intersted in that!

      1. Well, if by “collab” you mean I read your first draft, nod enthusiastically, and say “Yep! This is great,” then I’d love to!

        But that’s about all I could offer.

        The neurochemical perspective remains elusive to me!

          1. Seriously, I had to read that a few times. Are you sure? It seems pretty forte-ish from my perspective as a reader!

            And yeah, I know I just killed a little of the English language…

            1. for all I know Archivist is 100% correct… maybe we can only write ourselves.
              The beauty of the English language is that it’s so lively and evolves all the time! Those aren’t typos, they’re the future!

            2. “for all I know Archivist is 100% correct… maybe we can only write ourselves.”

              I’ve been trying to parse that, and I keep coming up with a syntax error.

              Borrowing liberally from my software development background, of course…

              We can only write from our own perspective — if we choose to only write from our perspective. Our old (and dead!) friend Terence’s quote is relevant here.

              In trying to write from another perspective, we expand our abilities. Take, for example, a science fiction writer trying to from from the point of view (POV) of a non-human. I’ve read some astonishingly realistic portrayals of hydrogen-based life forms in Brin’s work.

              I guess I just object in principle to artificial limits on what the human imagination can achieve. And I’m not sure you’re properly valuing your creative process, given the output you’ve shared with the world here on this site!

            3. which is why I need you on a collab!!! cough!!! somebody got tricked into showing they’re super smart and it wasn’t me!

            4. “somebody got tricked into showing they’re super smart and it wasn’t me!”

              I got plenty of evidence exonerating myself of that charge!

              In fact, I got a whole website proving that “super smart” can only be applied to me ironically!

  3. Glad to see you take on this series! It’s one of those shows I watch over and over. I identified a little too strongly with Kodaka and I wish I’d know someone like Rika because of her honesty, creativity, and ultimately, her loyalty. I feel terribly sorry for Yozora. And Sena… well, Sena’s Sena. I’ve never forget the scene at the swimming pool when the three guys tried to hit on her, and she had to mouth off to them one more time…

    Maybe it’s just my experience, but this series seemed to capture the annoyingness of being an outsider. It’s not that I wanted to be an insiders; but the view of high Earth orbit gets boring from time to time! This show captured that feeling.

    Best scene? It’s in season two, when Sena unloads her shocking question in front of everybody. Kodaka’s reaction was so perfectly in keeping with his character!

    As a snide side comment, two of my favorite science fiction writers are Anne McCaffrey and Elizabeth Moon. Just sayin’…

      1. I loved her Serano series… well, let’s just say ALL of her military sci-fi series!

        But I think my favorite is The Speed of Dark. Hit me like a ton of bricks. Talk about hitting close to home!

        1. One of My favourite authors is Charles de Lint. He writes almost exclusively from the perspective of young women and it feels devastatingly real to me.

        1. Probably boring but I really liked the Speed of Dark. I remember liking the Vatta series a lot as well.

  4. This anime I oddly liked and I still don’t know why. It was just fun to watch. The second season upped the melodrama but otherwise I had a lot of fun with the show. Great review.

  5. I remember quite liking the show, but there were elements I wasn’t too fond of. Maria is one, and I’m ambivalent on Sena’s Dad (sometimes I like him, and I wish he weren’t there). Rika is my fave, too. Maybe it’s the mad-scientist bonus? I shall never forget giant robot porn.


    SNAFU (dislike the title, but also don’t care much for the original, so it’s a wash – and this one’s easier to type) is a bit of a special case. I didn’t know what to make it of it. By episode four I joked that I like the uneven episodes and don’t much care for the even ones. I liked the last stretch of the show, but by then it was a case of too-little-too-late. Overally, I think, I still came away positive (slightly) on the show, but I pretty much filed it away under “I also watched this.” Then season 2 was announced. My excitement was… hard to find. Then I saw the new character designs, all prettied up, and I thought, so we’re getting that show, but with more moe. There must have been some excitement, however little, because I felt it dropping. Oh well. Might as well try an episode.

    I have never before and never after seen such a rise in quality. Season 2 hit me in the gut like a sports car I didn’t see coming. And the fun thing? Season 1 is indispensible. Everything that comes to a stunning payoff there was set up, carefully. And what’s more: i had no trouble remembering any of it (normally, my memory lets go of stuff that didn’t register that much). Somewhere in this show must have been something that resonated, even in season 1, but I didn’t notice (or noticed only every other episode?). I’m still confused about it. I love SNAFU, but wouldn’t if it weren’t for season one. Now if I could have season 2, with the rougher character designs of season 1…

    To this day, this seasonal dissonance (despite coherence) remains a unique experience.

  6. I wrote an entire review on this about how I want to recommend it but can’t because all the sex jokes make it inappropriate for under 18 teenagers whom the show would help the most. The harem also reminded me of Haruhi Suzumiya and Toradora more than SNAFU. Its a story about people being judged by their looks.
    I always liked the Chibi Nun because she’s basically a mascot for a very sketchy not-really-catholic school. Her older sister, from season 2, claims to be a nun but clearly isn’t either wearing those short skirts and a heart shaped symbol. Japan really doesn’t understand xtians at all.
    I like that in this show the hero has a healthy relationship with his sister as her primary caregiver and not even a trace of creepiness. That was one of the good bits about SNAFU. “Yep, 100% cotton.” Much like Hachiman and Toradora, the hero in Haganai is judged by his looks and has to overcome this major handicap. As this has turned up multiple times, with either gender hero (Its your guys fault I’m not popular), and Chios school road, its likely a very strongly shared experience for Japanese teenagers. It doesn’t help that careful marketing of idols of both genders raise standards too high for the possibility of romance with normal ugly people.
    That’s the downside. Second season of Haganai has some good bits in it, including most of a resolution of the love pentangle.

    1. I’m not sure I completely follow you mention it reminded you more of Toradora or Haruhi because it’s about being judges for your looks but then you mention that it’s like Hachiman being juged for his looks (which was SNAFU). In any case – I liked Haganai more than either.

      1. H8man is judged by his looks, but there’s no harem there. The girls don’t love him. The ice princess is hostile, and the bimbo is trying to repay a debt of guilt because his leg got broken saving her dog. That’s not love. It IS a story about bad looks and misunderstanding. But he really is as cynical as he says, he’s just not successful and suppressing all his human responses when he wants to be a better cynic. I personally think that H8man is narrating a memoir rather than living his life, so the events and interactions are mangled by his memory, and the end is in the title. H8man doesn’t get the girl/s.
        Toradora is a proper love story, as well as an attempt to overcome bad looks.
        Haruhi and Kyon are one of the strangest couples in anime. He’s God, she’s getting the credit for it, and the surrounding supporters know what Kyon is, but pretend that Haruhi is god because her bad moods create those bubbles of destruction. This is never directly stated, but is talked around in one of the middle eps, and in the movie they made. Kyon ALSO states that he denies believing in all the things he is immediately surrounded by and has adventures with. He never recants that denial, so the entire point of Haruhi is rubbing his nose in it, and forcing him to find how amazing the world is. Kyon is the successful cynic that’s being overrun by a strange reality and people he may have created by this denial in his own mind. He also gets friends out of it, as does Haruhi, who could be popular if she wasn’t crazy by being a sort of avatar of Kyon’s mad godhood. There’s lots of theories about Haruhi Suzumiya but this is the one that makes the most sense from the clues in the books.
        Much like Haganai and SNAFU, Haruhi was never finished. Its got a spoiler ending that doesn’t make the materialists running the marketing departments of all those anime studios shudder in fear that these shows will get backlash like Evangelion did.

          1. Fascinating reviews. I see you missed that Kyon is God, and Haruhi is merely Jesus, or something like it. Maybe a bit less smug. Haruhi is capable of everything, but she’s not aware that’s unusual so she’s less of a b17ch about it than she might be if written by Jane Austen.
            I think you missed some important parts of both anime, details which reveal a lot about the settings and characters, giving them depth.
            I really liked the interactions in Toradora with the model. Her friendship with the nerdy guy, who knows her before she got famous and is allowed to see her ugly side, is an important arc in the story. She’s liked because of her looks, rather than disliked, and makes her very similar to the Blonde babe in Haganai, who doesn’t have any friends because they’re all suckups staring at her chest.
            Since you haven’t seen 2nd season of Haganai yet I don’t want to spoil that for you. Stuff happens. And it isn’t ended properly because the animation company pissed off the writer, and it gets into a knot and no real ending. Same as SNAFU. At least Toradora had a good ending.

            1. I appreciate that your interpretation is different. I’ve read your theory on Haruhi a lot of places online – as I said in the comments of that post I knew it was the accepted one when I wrote the review but on a visceral level it simply wasn’t particularly satisfying to me so I decided to go with one I prefer for my enjoyment.
              As for me “missing” parts in Toradora. It features reasonable, agreeable and generally rational male characters surrounded by half realized female stereotypes which makes it odd because they all the girls seem crazy by comparaison possible except for the school president. Because they are wirrten using different techniques it makes it difficult to appreciate them on equal terms and so the relationships are abstract extrapolations. This works for some – it’s uninteresting to me. As I said I enjoy a certain degree of relatability to characters and I couldn’t relate to any of the girls in that show.
              I have seen the second season of Haganai. I finished both over a month ago. I schedule posts way in advance.

            2. Huh. Well, that’s a good point about the women in Toradora. If the author is male, that’s probably why. Men cannot write realistic women characters, and women cannot write plausible men. There’s entire web pages dedicated to trying to write the other gender, and its pretty tough. Even authors who are pretty good just can’t write the other gender properly. Thanks for clarifying why these shows didn’t work for you. I respect the difference and taking the time to explain.

            3. That’s a ridiculous statement. Im sure that in your line of work you’ve seen plenty of authors of both genders write well rounded characters regardless of gender. Toradora for intance was written by a woman. But the story was seriously condensed when making the jump to anime so they had to cut out a lot of things. The choice to skip over the development of secondary charas to concentrate more thightly on a single person narrative isn’t necessarily bad but it’s less efficient at creating complex and layered relationships since you’re only getting one side.

            4. No, I haven’t. I have read many thousands of novels. Some authors almost get close to depicting the other gender properly, but its rare to even get close. The effort involved in writing the other gender rarely pays off, since there’s gender bias in reading too. Men read male authors most. Women read female authors most. Librarians know this. It holds up the catalog system statistics too. Any woman who insists that men and women write and think the same has a lot of science and statistics against them. Making claims of equality is tragically misguided.
              I didn’t know that Toradora was written by a woman. Should have checked. That all the women are tropes and the men are too rational is quite interesting. It begs the question: What was she thinking? How much of the story was pandering wish fulfillment? Lots of stories are, especially YA, Romance, Spy novels, westerns and scifi. It sells, libraries buy it, and people choose what they read. Direct observation has been fascinating.

            5. I take it that Toradora ia badly written.
              Since it’s from the PoV of a male character by a woman author. Same would apply for FMA I suppose. Also Madoka is entire female charas, and a character driven story written by a man….

            6. Considering it is a romance novel vaguely based on Cyrano De Bergerac, I still think its in my Top 10 anime to recommend. It might not be that realistic, but its anime. I suppose it wouldn’t have worked written by a man. Would a man be that patient with all the toil and childish outbursts from the women around him? Would a man written by a man have given up on the softball player so easily, or gotten distracted by Taiga? A woman author pulls it off. And its a great work. A male author probably would have made the women a bit more rational, which is a terrible weakness in scifi and spy novels and westerns. Men write rational women, with more stable personalities. And lots of women huff in irritation when they read them. Too unrealistic.
              I’ve never read or seen Madoka Magica. There’s lots of emo and tropes in FMA, both versions. Love Hina was written by a man, and the women in that show were purely tropes. They are slightly more like people in the manga, but still simplified. Discworld is written by a man with a wife and daughter, and he had direct resources and several readers to help him make the women characters as plausible as he could, and bestsellers selling to both genders was the reward. Not perfect, but the best I’ve ever read.

            7. How is Haruhi rational? Does your theory extend to sexuality. Do gay authors have to write gay characters?
              Or culture? Can Americans write non american characters?
              Discworld is a huge series, and Pratchett collaborated with many authors throughout his career. Including Gaiman who writes wonderful women characters and Anathema, which they created together is quite a good example of that.
              The sad thing is that if you apply your theory as a blanket, the entire moe genre is essentially badly written since it’s still dominated by male authors and features exclusively female characters. Not to mention that they are usually not necessarily plot heavy shows so if the characters are bad it’s a big detriment.

            8. Haruhi is a teenager, and teenagers aren’t rational.
              Gay authors write differently from men or women, a subtle difference but its there. Anne MacCaffrey is a great example. Ursula K Leguin too. Read more if you aren’t sure about that. I don’t think I can convince you. You’ll have to do the work yourself, and you already disbelieve me, so is there any point? I read almost constantly, including audiobooks. I’ve been a serious reader for decades, but increased over the last 5 years. It adds up.
              Neal Gaiman’s characters are odd. Not exactly male or female. He worked with Pratchett pretty often, and they promoted a book together, where Gaiman found out that Pratchett was really angry, like Hulk on the inside. It fueled his humor.
              I suppose Moe is doomed, but a good part of that is about paternal feelings. You find moe characters dislikeable, right? Or some of them anyway.
              Well travelled people might be able to write characters of other cultures with sufficient exposure and observation. There’s a lot of inner voice which will be wrong, however, and anyone from that culture is going to annoyed.
              The thing is, even with the errors and impossibility of getting it right, book readers pick their biases, and they just don’t care as long as the biases are confirmed. As long as they aren’t challenged, they’ll read it happily.
              And librarians buy, catalog, and put books on the shelves as required to satisfy their community. That community pays our wages, and its not our job to tell them they are wrong. They’ll close us down if we do.

            9. I have no feelings about Moe characters, Some I love some I don’t like. I don’t necessarily know what constitutes a Moe character beyond being in a moe show.

              I’m not sure I understand the first paragraph. Read more what? I’ve read both Le Guin (love her so much) and McCaffrey (tried to create a homemade Dragonriders of Pern tabletop RPG when I was in highschool, cause I’m pure cool), I’m not sure why you mention them specifically. Is it because they can’t write men? Or is it because you think they Lesbians? Both were married to men while they were alive and I don’t think either ever came out publicly, that I remember.
              Your premise basically states that it is impossible for any current literary work to have a good cast of characters unless they are all of the same gender or authors of each gender collaborated. Also that the only way to have a complete romance that takes into account both partners is to have a homosexual one. Which is a surprising point of view considering some of your past comments. If you’re tired of playing with me that’s ok I just find this entire premise fascinating.

            10. McCaffrey and LeGuin could not write plausible male characters despite extensive experience. Good books, yes, but not plausible male characters.
              Its an interesting idea to get men and women to write books together so each gender is plausible. I don’t expect that to be popular, though Dragonlance was a male-female team, and it shows.
              Most authors write solo, and their heads are in a particular imaginary space. I used to be one, but I wasn’t successful at getting published. I couldn’t write good female characters either. I lost the ability to write fiction years ago. The few short times I could write it was better, but the urge vanished quickly again. And I still can’t write women. Motivations drive us, and men and women are driven very differently. I sometimes feel like humans in generally only THINK they understand each other, that civilization is the lie we pretend to believe so we can get along. Communication itself may be a lie. When I think that I wonder if I should drop social media and get a new hobby that is more productive.

            11. well then doesn’t that extend to the reader. As in there would be no way for a male reader to even appreciate a female character so he wouldn’t even be able to tel if it was well written or not?

            12. I think he could if the female character is written by a woman. Likewise, a female reader could understand a male character written by a male author. Unfortunately, the other gender characters are going to annoy, and there tends to be plot differences too.

            13. So that’s why Hermoine was the only good character in Harry Potter…
              As a woman whose been womaning for a while, I have read female characters written by male authors that I have found extremely relatable, fleshed out and realistic, and female characters written by female authors that seemed underdeveloped and unbalanced. Vice versa as well. I can understand the notion of essentially writting yourself being a more natural fit (although it’s also a difficult and frightening exercise, some authors prefer writting characters that are polar opposites.
              There are also people that relate better to people from the opposite gender in life.
              If you really want to talk about the creative process from a neurochemical standpoint, as biological limitations to creativity we can go into that too but I have a feeling I will be the only one interested in that.

            14. I know about neurochemistry, and microrna, and the chemical process involved in bonding between sexual partners and mother and child. I was horrified to learn that men bond to women, but not vice versa, and women bond to children.
              Hermione Granger was the most important female character in the Potter series, and its been said by MANY reviewers that Rowling can’t write boys or men. And I’d say that is true. When you realize that Harry was written like a girl, his actions and drives finally make sense. He’s a girl. Or was written as one, anyway. Same problem with Evangelion. The author gender flipped the characters deliberately. That’s why Asuka acts like a boy, and Shinji is such a mopey whiner. He’s a girl. Not sure about the actual author since the flip was a big part of the decision for making that show. Its the anti-Gundam.
              When I was an author I would try to get into the motivations of each character and the villains were really difficult because you have to imagine yourself as relentlessly selfish and willing to do anything to get your way. You feel dirty afterwards, having imagined yourself as evil. I don’t have the software to be a woman, so I can’t really understand all the drives and inclinations. I don’t have the hormone balance or the variable personality surges which come from that. I’ve worked with LOTS of women, and the mutual suspicion and hatred and petty viciousness I’m very familiar with. I also recall bitterly all the passes women made at me when I was younger. Their ethics were variable too.

            15. Oxytocin is released in larger quantities during orgasm than breastfeeding or uterine contractions. There’s also several antidiuretic hormones that account for long term female to male attachment. I’m not sure it’s been clearly established that men are more attached and less likely to leave their partners or cheat than women. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12152-007-9002-4
              this is a pretty basic article but it gives decent stats and was peer reviewed.
              For Eva Asao is a man and according to him he wrote Shinji as a prototypical anime fan. He had some issues with fandoms….
              I don’t know why you have a mutual hatred and suspicion of women but I hope not all men feel that way.

            16. Nah, the hostility. Being married teaches a man that women aren’t very nice. I won’t go into it much but 10 years I won’t get back.

            17. Some guys are jerks but not all guys. I think that applies to women as well. Clearly I’m not the best example but there are lovely girls out there.

            18. Lovely girls? For how long? The best women marry early and stay that way. Most aren’t the best and don’t stay married for long. Not sure if that’s how things are going in Canada, but it sure is here in the USA.

              The man haters are calling for vicious deaths of all men. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-03/campus-mob-enraged-confirm-kavanaugh-display
              And https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-03/georgetown-responds-amid-blacklash-twitter-ban-profs-rep-senators-deserve-miserable
              and https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-christine-blasey-ford-accusers-lying/ Why would a man even risk being alone with a woman when she might claim rape if she doesn’t have a good time, or only wants to hurt you in the first place?

              Wise men are single. Victims get relationships.

            19. Listen – it’s obvious that you hate women but if you want to attack people while using my blog as a platform, please just attack me. There’s no need to call any of my readers vicious murders, that’s simply uncalled for.
              If anything, the supreme court fiasco shows that being accused of sexual harassement doesn’t prevent you from getting a possition you would be barred from if you failed to pay a few parking tickets on time. And I don’t see his accusers lives getting particulalrly better… That testomony was hard to watch I would hate to have had to actually experience it.
              Mind you I’m not saying false accusations don’t exist or even that these ones are legit. But it’s really shrt sighted to think that rape doesn’t exist or that accusing someone of it is somehow fun for the accuser. I also do disagree with you that the world is inherently more difficult for straight white men than anyone else. If you really want to have a reasonable debate on that – you’re welcome to do so whitout calling any of my readers names. There are quite a few measurable statistics we can use.
              As for: Wise men are single. Victims get relationships. Excellent news – you don’t have to be in a relationship. Anywhere in the world, single men enjoy all the same rights as married ones. The same isn’t true for women, so sadly they sometimes either have to give up social standing or willingly become “victims”.

            20. Fair enough. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I’d like to live in a world where people don’t automatically assume I’m evil, but this is the world we live in. Apologies to your readers. California is not a nice place for tolerance or justice, and that certainly affects my own assumptions about people. However, I still don’t have evidence to the contrary, and its difficult to believe in something you have never personally seen. People can swear its true, but when all local evidence is the opposite, it sounds more like lying from my side of the mountain. Not your fault. Not the fault of all women, though there aren’t enough standing up and denouncing feminist evil. There’s no justice, and I think I understand native americans a lot better because of how I’ve been treated in my own home state. I’ll leave my ponderings off your blog. Feel free to delete my comments.

            21. I haven’t ever deleted your comments – even when you call me an unhinged dingbat – nor would I now. I honestly don’t think you want to hurt anyone’s feelings and I must say – I’ve always been impressed that you come back to this blog despite the fact that I am very vocal about both being a women and a feminist.

            22. There aren’t enough women scientists in the world and they deserve polite discussion. I’m just cranky in the mornings.

            23. The neurochemistry of bonding had to do with progestin, if I remember correctly. And estrogen emitted from the breastbone, while the necessary chemicals are in the man’s brain from his own complex reaction. This only works face to face. The chemicals she releases in her sweat also prime the male for the bond, and he’s pretty much a slave after that. Lots of women take advantage of this for their own ends, sometimes just to make sure they’ve got support while pregnant and raising a baby. Other women are less ethical. Did you know that paternity tests are not relevant to paternity suits in California? The wife is having your child, and you pay. Even if you can prove its not yours, its California law. Its in the state constitution. Totally crooked, too.

            24. Progestin is a medical form of progesterone and is used in birth control pills in combination with estrogen. Both play a role in the women’s menstrual cycle and therefore can be indicative of fertility which use to be believed to have a pheromone effect. Both are se hormones so they would primarily play a role in attraction rather than pair-bonding. Vasopressin would be more likely to cause a long term effect. Otherwise, the main chemical component of *love* is generally believed to be endorphins released by both partners in response to outside stimuli.
              I have no doubt that some women are not great partners. I’m just saying that most publicly published studies don’t reflect that women are overwhelmingly less faithful or more likely to instinguate separation/divorce.
              I must admit I now very little of California family law. The first 4 hits on google are CA law firms that say “There are times when the request for paternity testing is refused. Usually, it’s the mother who is denying the request, but not always. There are times in California when paternity testing is necessary when it comes to child support issues. When talking, negotiating and mediation doesn’t work, legal action may be necessary.” Maybe they changed it?

            25. “McCaffrey and LeGuin could not write plausible male characters despite extensive experience. Good books, yes, but not plausible male characters.”

              We’re going to need to agree to disagree on this one.

              F’lar, F’nor, and many of MacCaffrey’s male character struck me as completely realistic. Very much like men in my own life.

              Many of the women characters in David Brin’s Uplift Series were very much like women I work with every day. Dr. Gillian Baskin in particular (who commanded the Streaker in Heaven’s Reach reminded me strongly of several women I’ve worked with.

              Now, I don’t want to say flat out that you’re wrong. I’ll just say that your experience is inconsistent with mine and leave it at that.

          2. Regarding your point about writing for the opposite sex…

            To quote Terence (no relation!): “Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto”, or “I am human, and I think nothing human is alien to me.”


            He was around 195 to 159 BCE.


            I think he was on to something!

  7. “low on both drama and romance”

    Cue second season.

    As for the art style, have you seen Denpa Onna? That and this both had the same character designer, so there are strong similarities between the two. Whenever I think of the art in Haganai, I think of Denpa Onna. Or vice versa. Good write-up.

    1. Same “original character design” (Buriki). Three shows are based on his (her?) character design:

      – Haganai
      – Denpa Onna
      – A Lull in the Sea

      The last of those has gotten the PA Works treatment and looks a lot less distinctly like him as a result.

      Denpa Onna is great, but as far as I know it’s legally only available as a boxed set.

        1. Heh, you know those little dolls, where you push a button and they something? Mention an anime I liked and I’ll say it’s good no matter how many times I’ve said it before (i.e. I remember saying it not that long ago, and I think I mentioned the show once before that, too). I might not say much if the batteries run out.

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