We’re back with our 3rd instalment of completely making a mess out of Steins;Gate’s lore. You guys are lucky that Arthifis is around to keep me on track. I had this whole thing about umbrellas and penguins…
Just for a bit of context – we ended last post with me ging on a long rambling tangent about sci fi time travel. It ended this way:
“If I remember correctly, Steins;Gate is based and a multiverse theory and their time travel device creates a small localized wormhole that allows to send a small bit of information from one spot in space time to another, including one in the past. So I figure it falls under the second option. Your not creating a new reality or timeline (as in the first) and you’re not skipping to another timeline all together (as in the 3rd). Your retracing your steps and taking a different fork in the road, but your not bombing the other road…
Does that make sense?”
I think we all know the answer to that question. And now, part 3!
Thank you for the explanation! I just felt my IQ going up! 😀
I agree with you, it must be based in the second one, since when something happens, in that reality it’s like you just didn’t do something. Taking the watch example again.
If Rintaro bought an expensive watch and came back to stop himself from buying it then, he would be the only one knowing that he had bought the watch to being with. And this, only because of his reading steiner. If he didn’t had that he wouldn’t even remember buying it in the first place. Probably would remember that he was thinking buying one and then received a message from himself from the future telling him not to buy it!
Completely makes sense to me.
However, I continue to think that I’m right though. Like I said above, they can’t end the World War 3, as they will need to build the time machine so Suzuha comes back. This is, if Rintaro really goes forward with his objective of not changing the timelines.
I went and rewatched the ending of Steins;Gate just to be certain XD In the end, Rintaro and Suzuha comeback in time a last time. However, this time, Rintaro is able to do everything certain to save both Kurisu and Mayuri, leading him to the Steins;Gate timeline. When they are coming back, Suzuha says to him “See you in 7 years” and when Rintarou is back to the present, no one remembers about Suzuha because in that timeline she never had the necessity to come back.
Does it make sense? I mean that the World War 3 will happen and the Time Machine will be build with the premise that Rintaro, afraid of going again towards the alpha line, will just make everything in his power to not change the timeline.
Now, of course he may be able to prevent World War 3 without a time machine (which I don’t think it’s really possible), but that kind of event will make the timeline change again and they all will move to a timeline where there is no World War 3 (so, no Suzuha), but also with a dead Kurisu which is a outcome that we still didn’t see.
-Maho: Same as above but with Kurisu. Even if we believe that Kurisu is a more withdrawn and private person, Dr. L. was cited in her research paper, Maho should have been as well if they were part of the same lab…
Hmmm, completely agree with you and never thought about this… Maybe Kurisu was so into the time machine that didn’t even remember to talk about her? Moreover, as Maho is always saying, Kurisu was like Mozart. She only thought about getting better and do her best, so maybe she just didn’t remember to mention Maho at all… Nevertheless, it is strange and needs to be explained
-Second Reading Steiner: I mean come on – if there was a second reading Steiner this close to them, surely they would have known,In the dark days of Mayuri’s continuous demise, she saw Natsumi frequently as they were getting ready for comiket, and Okabe was shifting worldlines every 20 minutes, this would have come up.
Didn’t think about it, but completely agree with you!
-Timeline: In terms of passage of time, we should be roughly at the same point as the end of the first season but on the alpha worldline, yet Russian and the US are already conducting time travel experiments even though SERN never created the first prototypes. This doesn’t quite line up with what we know of Suzu’s future past.
I think the key is Kagari. Although CERN is not in the picture, one of the factions had in their custody someone who came from the future and I believe they did all kind of experiments and things like that to get the information how to create a time machine.
You may be right on this one. It makes sense.
OK so let’s say I’m right. What does any of it even mean? Well…I dunno. I think that they are setting us up for a worldline in which the previously existing rules are tweaked. Clearly Okabe should be with Maho but I’m not so sure they’ll end up together because maybe this time love doesn’t conquer all. Kagari obviously needs an actual role and maybe she can be the counter to Suzu. After all, we are desperately saving the world entirely on the speculations of a traumatized little girl here. How do we even know she’s telling the truth. She could have misunderstood somethings.
Moeka and Maho were together and friendly at the very beginning, that relationship needs to be explained and since I’m going with the love doesn’t conquer all route, maybe they’ll pull a bait and switch and Maho will turn out to be an antagonist. That could be truly interesting.
They need to be careful not to unravel the narrative integrity of the story but if they can manage to convey a completely opposite message while doing that – it will be grand!
That would be just so mind-blowing and would put Steins;Gate 0 as my favorite Anime of all time… Ok maybe not the favorite, but in a solid second place!
Those were great details you got there! I didn’t even thought on some of them!
When it comes to things I need explanation is all the things that happened because of coincidence! Starting with Kagari’s lost memory and to appear in just the place to Luka’s father finding her. I mean, they just need to explain these kind of things or all story will just feel flat to me.
Did you guys enjoy going off on flights of fancy with us? Good news then, there’s one last part left! Go ahead to Arthifis‘ blog to catch up with the thrilling conclusion!